tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930474236639439381.post9127492665689912766..comments2024-03-03T07:30:42.721-05:00Comments on Section 36: There’s Stupid…There’s Really Stupid…Then, there’s the trade.Section 36http://www.blogger.com/profile/18194098940017348361noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930474236639439381.post-88125637965102315812012-09-04T15:26:36.655-04:002012-09-04T15:26:36.655-04:00I share your disappointment about Crawford being g...I share your disappointment about Crawford being gone. I wanted a full year of a healthy Crawford to see what he could bring.<br /><br />I don't dislike the trade because it ships out Gonzo and Beckett. That's fine with me. I dislike it because we didn't get enough value back.Juphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09953874265111637024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930474236639439381.post-6194568422320184162012-08-28T21:46:17.662-04:002012-08-28T21:46:17.662-04:00This is the single best trade in recent history. ...This is the single best trade in recent history. I joke not. Offload all the salary of guys that were leading a team that was losing. They were disfunctional and terrible and they were bad. Do not forget that. Oh, but they were all former all-stars! They were great on paper! But they were bad.<br /><br />Out with the old and in with the new. The new will not be as torturous as the old. That I guarantee.PappyinNHnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930474236639439381.post-59710681475936212122012-08-28T10:53:53.838-04:002012-08-28T10:53:53.838-04:001. Yes he is one of the best in the game but a te...1. Yes he is one of the best in the game but a team isn't made up of a player. I would rather have 2 good pitchers and a non All-Star first baseman than a superstar on first and nobody's on the mound. I have said before that I myself would hate to play with Pedroia. ALl his braging would get on my nerves. Either way we had no clubhouse problems till Gonzalez was here. Maybe he was the problem maybe not. In 5-10 years Tito will write a book and we will know for sure.<br /><br />2. Hasn't he always been hurt? Every year he has a few missed starts for assorted things. Even with Flordia he had problems like that. Blisters, bruised thumb, oblique, quad, etc but he was never as ineffective as he is this year. LA did a medical exam of him before the trade and if he had an actual arm problem they would have turned him down. He can still be an effective pitcher but he isn't an elite pitcher anymore even though he is being paid as one. The National League should help him out though.<br /><br />3. I didn't like Crawford even when he was in Tampa. To me the only thing special about him is his speed. He doesn't hit for power, doesn't have a huge OBP he is just a normal hitter with super speed. It gioves him a few more doubles and triples which raises his OPS. But with age comes a loss of speed. I can't see him keeping that speed for the lenght of his contract.<br /><br />1. I hope they don't sign Hamilton. I hope they don't spend it all in ritht away. I hope they give Ortiz the two years he has always wanted, Extend Jacoby long term, give Ross maybe 2 years, sign Marcum, and short term pitching cotracts. TO me you shouldn't spend all your money in the offseason every year. You should have some kind of reserve so that you can pick up people mid year as teams fall out of contention. <br /><br />It just gives us a ton of options where we had no options before. We were stuck with the same under achiving roster for the next few years. AdamEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12107347958456472504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930474236639439381.post-71170688415143948532012-08-27T16:01:00.626-04:002012-08-27T16:01:00.626-04:00Adam, if i may...
1. You said he A-gone was one o...Adam, if i may...<br /><br />1. You said he A-gone was one of the best in the game. If you have one of those on your roster, you keep him. As for clubhouse problem, that's media spin. Why? Because the guy wouldn't talk to them. He sent a text message about a problem on behalf of him and other players. Isn't that the definition of "team captain?" Is that different than Pedroia complaining "that's not how we do things here?" But, Pedroia gives better quotes, so he's not a problem.<br /><br />2. Beckett has been hurt this year. Is he an ace? Probably not. Is he a valuable pitcher? apparently the Dodgers think so.<br /><br />3. Crawford had an adjustment year, and a hurt year. I can't give up on him yet. Especially since it's not like the Sox can't afford to wait and see. They're not the Royals.<br /><br />1. The 270 million. What are they doing with it? Signing Josh Hamilton? I'd rather have Gonzalez. Signing Cody Ross long term? My gosh, I hope not. You only need flexibility if there are holes to be filled. Before this trade, the Sox didn't have any of those. Section 36https://www.blogger.com/profile/18194098940017348361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930474236639439381.post-72957767802199091952012-08-27T15:56:16.337-04:002012-08-27T15:56:16.337-04:00What the hell just happened?What the hell just happened?Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06161762602291616465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930474236639439381.post-35952666782109979912012-08-27T14:45:12.979-04:002012-08-27T14:45:12.979-04:00I don't know how you can see this as anything ...I don't know how you can see this as anything but a win for us? I break it down like this:<br /><br />We lost:<br />1. Gonzalez - one of the best 1st baseman in the game but also someone who has been reported as one of the "problem' guys in the clubhouse.<br /><br />2. Beckett - He was great on 07 and good ever since except this year. This year he has not been good and the numbers he put up shouldn't be hard to get somewhere else cheaper. <br /><br />3. Crawford - We haven't got anything out of Crawford in two years. If he had played either of his two years in Boston like the guy that was in Tampa this would be a horrible trade but he never even had a few weeks for us where he was that player. So what we lose is a bad contract.<br /><br />We Gain:<br />1. 270 Million in payroll flexability. <br /><br />So in total we lose one guy who contributed nothing (Crawford) one guy that is easibly replaceable (Beckett) and Gonzalez. So I ask is Gonzalez worth 270 Million? To me the answer is easy, no. <br /><br />We won't find a 1st baseman of Adrian's caliber for wht we were paying him but with 270 million we can get close and add pitching and pitching is what we really need.<br /><br />(I agree however that Boston's media is horrible) AdamEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12107347958456472504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930474236639439381.post-62114703679159867612012-08-27T13:58:53.443-04:002012-08-27T13:58:53.443-04:00I hear ya. I always thought CC got a bum rap. From...I hear ya. I always thought CC got a bum rap. From what I read he was pretty shocked at how things deteriorated in Boston last season, what with the chicken-and-beer attitude, so going to LA has got to be a godsend for him now. Here's hoping the Sox dump Bobby V (TERRIBLE idea to begin with) and get things turned around.Carl Crawford Cardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17030598531993013832noreply@blogger.com